The information provided here does not represent the views of Cheaper Than Dirt! Idiotic. https://warisboring.com/trump-expands-on-what-obama-started-banning-russian-rifle-imports/, Wilderness Survival, Hiking and Camping Forum. The constitution is not silent on this topic. But to remain on topic This is necessary and should be enacted without exceptions. There is a third category known as Unofficial, but is reserved for very unique circumstances and rarely if ever used. Personally I think Obama is the worst thing that has happened to this country and the biggest deterrent to freedom in my lifetime (60 years). Any other agenda, would be speculation. Buy Israeli. You are both a couple of Obama sheep following your king to destruction. These latest sanctions will no doubt engender the idea among some that the Treasury Department is using a geopolitical crisis as a convenient excuse to advance the presidents domestic anti-gun agenda, the National Rifle Association and its lobbying body, the Institute for Legislative Action,stated in 2014. Come on people, get your head in the game, pay attention to what is happening. If some of you people cant see this its time to take off the rose colored glasses!!!!! Blame the director of the AFT at the time for the screw up. He just visited Cuba last week. On its face, Blatantly Unconstitutional, and in its oerational aspects, a Deliberate ACT of Treason against the People and the Constitution. It could read Rumsfeild Cheney Rove and Bush. Probably not. Come on man, dont need that crap. Its rare to find a Saiga-12 for sale these days. BENGHASI, IRS, OBAMA CARE, GUN CONTROL NUTS, FAST AND FURIOUS, SPYING ON AMERICANS, KILLING AMERICANS WITHOUT DUE PROCESS, CHRISTIANS BEING THROWN OUT OF THERE HOMES BY ISIS TELLING THEM CONVERT OR DIE. In 6-years of officer hes made 92-executive orders, while George W. has made 592 in 8-years of office. Guess which one. When they break the law, their oath or violate the Constitution we should have a million people on the mall and demand change. BS to the max! It seems to me hes been very careful not to use the executive orders option. And yet he is still in office. If you STILL OWN A GUN, then your 2nd Amendment rights are still intact. Then maybe I should sell some of my goodies while the prices are high..$$$$$$. Let me mention the Obamacare crap. This is a ploy to sell more AKs. When demand exceeds supply, the price of the goods in demand increases. Again you are puking the liberal line assuming that conservatives want war. But for now, he IS the chief Executive in charge of the United States and since we are not privy to what all he sees and hears, cannot judge what he does. The Republicans are pusillanimous peewees, they dont do anything about it and they should stand up and be counted instead of running for the exit every time they bring this up. Sorry, but I could not correct the original post, so I edited here. Unemployment in minority communities is at an all time high as is unemployment in general if you dont cook the numbers. It is probably more easily appreciated that those who assist homosexuality thru laws and the celebration of it are more readily seen to serve Satan helping to destroy those souls. If he really truly cared, why not volunteer all Federal agencies to siscontine usage of the Saiga/AK lines as a symbolic pro American Gesture, not just forcing it on us tiny by comparison buyers, We the People. We look forward to meeting you and gunsmithing for you. Being the communist that he is, one would think that he would love Russia and RUssian goods. Robert Fanney One? You can buy direct. The Republican Congress claim they have the votes to override Obama veto, I speculate to wonder why they havent, unless they themselves dont want to. Its like a penny in the ocean if it does a negative turn in our gun sales or sales for our economy then we dont deserve to be the world leader that we are. Grow up. Your email address will not be published. A forum community dedicated to survivalists and enthusiasts. Because they do not agree with him. I look at the facts. Ill wait until your view of Obama, movie comes out. ), Barak Obama: 147 (No domestic crisis. Heck You might even consider buying American and keep our own economy fore most. The truth hurts doesnt it. Inorganic chemicals: $5,009,209,000 (1%) You bitch about congress not doing there jobs. March 19, 2013 in Saiga 7.62 X 39. Frankly, that's where it should be.". Machinery: $8,815,393,000 (1.7%) good guys/bad guys and whatever chomo means) We have an enemy to this country and it happens to be the tyrant in the white house. I dont need anyone to think for me. NY LOST that fight (for now), CO LOST that fight (for now) etc etc. How many investigations has Daryl Issa done now on OBAMA and the IRA. it was a long way from perfect, and frankly I we have never had a president I totally agreed with. Its a Russian weapon and if it benefits a country that is starting to act like an enemy of old, then why buy it. Bush was working when he wasnt working. breid1970, So as you can see this is a short cry from the fabled 592 you claimed for Bush and Obamas executive orders exceed your ludicrous assertion by almost 100 orders. Like him! And of course lacking their own intellect, these libs have to fall back on their talking points handbook and find themselves left with Al Sharptons spin that Obama took only 93 days of vacation time as compare to Bushs 367 days. Obstructionism has also had an impact. Obama basically stated that this was unconstitutional and that his unilateral action fell within his purview. The plant supplied the Imperial Army with muskets and firearms during the Napoleonic Wars and during the first Crimean War in the 1850s. At which point they would be retired from the project and it was said some made it to insane asylums so you might appreciate that it can be quite heavily effective. However it is dead wrong for the government to force you to give by taking it from you and deciding how to pass you money out. If its only Russian Firearms, than feel free to go purchase an AK47 from any other manufacturer. Just remember that mutual respect goes a long way as well. EO 13662 may only apply to the Kalashnikov Concern (Saiga) and Russian AK 47s now. Can this nation stand two more years??????? The purpose of the executive order was to sanction Russia for actions relating to the Ukraine. Molots guns, however, remainedlegal to import. I dont belong on either side and my vote isnt likely to going to count in future elections but Im sure as hell going to try to make it count through my friends. Do you? I dont know who Co-President Dick Chaneys, Vice President was. We allow lawyers to have to much freedom on both sides to manipulate the laws how they see fit. Feat of the Week, History, General Gunsmithing. I would be willing to pay more for American made products. But, internet is a wonderful place and the people we just based on the freedom of the internet often turnout to be something totally different in person. I do not. There is no category for presidential vacations and since vacations cannot be considered Political, they must always be classified as Official Travel and therefore are provided at no cost to the President. It is scary what this president might do or try to do during the remainder of his term. The tyranny of the legislature is really the danger most to be feared, and will continue to be so for many years to come. June 24, 2017 I just read her speech. This devil has committed to ruining the USA and the liberals are blindly helping him do it each day. Regardless of all that, hating someone because of their race is just plain wrong man and I am as conservative as one can get. Does this affect the Tula ammo in 7.6939 and the 7.62x54R? The EO bans the Importation of the Kalashnikov Concern (Saiga) Rifles. In my opinion, the President acted and utilized this current conflict, not to punish Russia, but to impose Gun Control and Attack our Second Amendment Rights.. All of the bleeding hearts that do not like what Obama does need to make sure they VOTE next time and elect someone new. Qualifications have little to nothing to do with anything. That is a very good point. American jobs at the importer, distributor/dealers, and Saga assemblers like Arsenal Inc., Las Vegas, NV will also be impacted. Lol. Idiots argueing about if he did something instead of going out and making a stand agadir this treasonous piece of crap we call the president. Mozambique put it on their flag. On a second note, Concern Kalashnikov is not the only way to get russian parts. One country refusing to buy AKs, the U.S., is not going to impact their sales figures at all! If we as a nation, or half of the nation, do not take a stand like some of these towns have done to keep out the new illegals we are going down as a nation. As you stated, your wisdom and intelligence far exceeds mine. 2023 CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved. Most people dont know that the federal government has protected the elected officials from the laws that we have to follow. All people want to do is walk around blindly and let the media feed the bullshit so I am not going to waste anymore time trying to prove how ignorant the us citizen has become. Adolf Hitler So lets get started! If the article has any accuracy in it at all, then it is safe to say that citizens can still acquire and own the products they love an cherish. It is its natural manure. The news fails to mention that the reason there are so many Russians in Ukraine and those other countries is that Stalin murdered and starved the native populations and replaced them with Russians. I could ramble on all day as to what I see wrong with our government but no one really cares. You could not care less about Brian Terry could you? Reddit Using diplomacy vs. war mongering We know where that leads. Hot Take: Trump doesn't actually care about the 2nd Amendment. Tell me how you really feel about her. There is still plenty to dislike about the bill, such as magazine capacity limits and a bunch of other stuff. I could fill a page and you know it. could use that evidence. Which also over crowds the prisons and jails so they are forced to release people who actually need to be in jail. Nope, so dont say it online or at all. Every thing seems a bit bass ackwards to me. Is everything I have heard wrong, I have no Idea, I just want a VEPR 12 in a little over a year. Indubitably, Oh-bummer was not Stalin, but instead Russian on Putin de facto gun control measures in place. 12E0333 and Jake: Because it is cheaper? Everyone has secrets, just some are deeper than others. WebWhat Weapons are Prohibited in the State of Maryland. @ Mc Ruger: You did well the way you worded everything up there. So outside of these functioning locations, the reality is Bush only spent 18 real vacation days at miscellaneous locations free of a presidential workload. We still believed in this country. All that being done, is the can being kicked further down the road. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress. WebThe RAM Tactical Release is a direct replacement for the standard magazine catch on AK-47 style firearms. Americans must oppose such decisions i.e. Got converted ones and some in their original stock. He has to pay his own rent, and he actually has to buy a 1st class airplane ticket if he plans on flying there on AF1. I know Im grandfathered in but can I sell it or pass it along to my kids? Go back and check out 06-08. As a matter of fact, sanctions provide a president so much flexibility that the ones finally decided upon actually do reflect a representation of that presidents specific political interests and thusly can and should be construed as a personal political statement. Explosives Again, the Constitution is silent on any regulation of the poer or authority to regulate or DENY acess or ownership. Unfortunately this is just the beginning..Government and the Democrats believe that safety means no guns..They do not see that guns are a necessary evil..They are the means for the common man to defend themselves when no one else can..Law enforcement cant save you..They may arrive to pick up the pieces..I would never feel safe in todays society without guns..We should be keeping better track of the mentally ill, instead of letting society push them onto the states where they can become a lethal problem. I also feel like Snowden did the right thing by the citizens of the US by reporting to us we are being lied to by Claooer. Get your head out of your but Tom Tom !! Getting rid of anyone that doesnt suite them. The End. Oh wait youre another liberal brain stem. I dont know the actual time frames, but when govt isnt in session all of the politicians go back to their normal lives and jobs. Your weapon would not be affected if there ever was a ban. And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? This looks like a routine bout of sanctions to me. I really feel like you guys slam Obama cuz he is black its really sad cuz I bet money yall love Bush the guy that bankrupt tge country and invaded another one based on a lie say what you want but that is the truth Obama has no agenda and by the way I love guns and I am a licensed CHL holder but I will respect you more if you admit youre a racist cuz thats exactly what yall sound like. Think of it as SNOW. i.e. Hey Dive, how about you just step your immature rude ass aside and allow us grownups to answer in a more sophisticated and non-demeaning manner. IT IS TIME FOR THE LAZY ASS TV WATCHERS TO PUT DOWN THE REMOTE AND STAND UP AND FIGHT. Show the Chinese we really mean business! Your world might be of fantasy but doesnt make you right. The BS here has been fun but we cannot depend on politicians are not going to change things. Obozo is just using the opportunity to ban the guns. Is this band on Russian AKs necessary? Then again you can still buy one from China. If a U.S. person has an inventory of Kalashnikov Concern products in which Kalashnikov Concern has an interest (for example, the products are not fully paid for or are being sold on consignment), we advise that U.S. person to contact OFAC for further guidance on handling of the inventory. But both groups serve Satans purpose and have the same end. If congress was more effective in handling their business the president wouldnt need to do EOS. How about we lift the ban on Chinese weapons instead? Bring that up to your elected officials and pressure them to change (bitching on the internet in a random forum does not help you achieve the objective) What it does hurt is people wanting to buy RUSSIAN ak 47`s. Stock market crash 401k gone homes in foreclosure. Local Florida officials are voicing their outrage over Gov. A virtue of a true nigger. Clip was probably from several months back-I do not remember as it was not especially memorable to me as I already know this as a fact supported by PPSimmons youtube vid on Jesuss reference to Obama in Luke 10;18 and many other reported references to Obama as Satan in the Bible. If he really wanted to hit Putin where it hurt, he and the Europeans would work to undercut Russias energy industry and ban selling Russia parts or equipment they need to keep their domestic economy propped up. It was a ban on AKs it was a ban on anything being imported thats russian made want to mention that a little more than saying it was just against AKs. Thank you for the good job. Shooting prostitutes on sight. In contrast, Obama does not own any vacation retreats and therefor costs the tax payers millions more towards preparation, security, staff and rent when he vacations. That probably everybody voted for him twice. I was on 30 kills when i got disconnected and shadowbanned but didnt realize i was shadow'ed. These rules Ive mentioned are set by the Executive Office of the President to begin with, and are merely a courtesy if followed. And much like the antelope, the Saiga-12 has become an endangered species. We also get the firearms e want. The sanctions will go out the window. We are only human and not perfect so the laws need to be simplified. Illegal appointments when congress was not in recess . Will it be effective? In 2010, Russia exported $10 billion in total weapons (from tanks to ammo) to the USA; AK-47s and similar rifles would only make up a minute fraction of that total amount. Pearls, gems, precious metals and coins: $14,367,047,000 (2.7%) Amen! News to me Do NOT celebrate until the fat lady sings! If we never see another Russian made AK in this country we will be just fine. I have read that the Oblahblah administration is trying to provoke angry demonstrations and more to justify Martial law. Move along Sparky! Guarantee they will be hurting long before the U. S. will. When I called them to see the best they could do was drop it to around $550 a month. It certainly hit home for me. Go back down to Moms basement lay down and look at your sexy Pelosi poster its been a hard day for you. When one door closes, another one opens. The GOP has the Senate? Without the AWB portion included it now has a chance of passing. I stopped buying their cheap corrosive ammo a while back when I got a reloading press and Im glad that I did. What are you to impeach him. Tom is right. He is destroying or country trying to make the whole world his. So is anything the United States is the problem . Hes using the same shameful tactics as Operation Choke Point any means available to attempt to remove guns from the US citizen. And may there be peace on earth. Overly hot bouncy ass pieces of shit!!! While signing an executive order to impose new sanctions on Russia, President Obama used his pen to also further his agenda of gun control by including a ban of parts used to build or repair Russian AK-47s. Several factors include declining exports, the Russian military prioritizing precision-guided weapons in its budget, and increased pressure from authorities on the Russian civilian market before the 2018 World Cup. Whats wrong with you? He kept most of Bushs policies and even kept some of his appointees afterwards. Put Up, or Shut Up!!! Obama has never acted in Americas interests. The fees were tallied based on a head count of only the political staffers on board each flight, and never applied to the President or his staff. Effectively reducing the AK market to american made AKs only? saiga I can see where you stand, In front of the TV with FOX News on 24-7. Think i saw pelosi looking zombie targets @ cabelas lol. Same here. Russia and most Russians want a return to the old USSR. Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan made Putin stronger. As for being a half day short, I work where media devices are not allowed in any shape or fashion, soooo it was news to me. However, the rules allow for the mixing of trips as Official and Political thus making reimbursement for the Political portions quite convoluted and hard to track. It is all to common that it is the accused who is forced to prove innocence rather than the way the law intended it to be where the accusers have to provide the proof of guilt. Past leaders have done it under the RADAR, obama does not seem to care to hide anything anymore. Just plain truth. - None of this matters, as our weak-kneed allies in Nato have become dependent on Russia and Putin knows it. Just the same, this will definitely cause the price of ammo to go up, as the supply will become strained. I do not see it as buying from the enemy. Source: Kalashnikov plans to sell up to 200,000 rifles in US. Not all through mental hypnotic programming, the upper levels Obama various past Presidents, pivotal world leaders, personages are most certainly total puppets to the degree that they could quite accurately be referred to as Satan-as Jesus does Obama in that Luke 10: 18 verse. Display as a link instead, All Saiga-12 configurations are You have to really have something wrong with you to believe that Oblahblah had nothing to do with the IRS targeting, lying about Benghazi, Fast and Furious, spying on Americans, etc. They are indiscriminately killing christians, all iraqi soldiers, any one they feel is not Radical Isam and doesnt believe in Sharia Law. they are working for Rotschild, Rockefeller, JP Morgan and other elements of global shadow goverment. GOP Congress? Buy an American AR, if you have to have the need military style weapon and support your country. The Weapons Manufacturers are geniuses. Its a global marketplace. We had been attacked and were in effect, at war. Nuckinfuts, I think President Obama over step his powers of what President can do. I say ban everything from Russia, ban all US citizen travel to Russia, ban all Russian national travel to the US, ban em to hell. That Bush action opened the door for anything goes. I buy American Made Guns from American Companies not from Russia, China, Brazil, or Austria. The problem I am hearing is that there are a lot of people that do not like Obama, and they are using this to air their feelings. We just cant trust the American people to make those types of choices. David G. just playing devils advocate, not on either side, Im sure you can still get a good ole (LOL) Century Arms AK47 made right here in the USA, of course you can also custom build you an AR chambered in 7.62. He is legislating instead governing. 12EO333 Youre right about one thingyou cant think. The AK-47 ban in his order is part of his gun control strategy. Then again if it rains out your buddies cookout most of you guys blame Obama. This information may provide a laymans clarification, to some extent, on Presidential Executive Orders. I have not, however, received any response from Congress at this time. Fortunately, there are a few facts in which gun enthusiasts may find some solace. Not just here but in the politicsl process. IZHMASH R&D CENTER; f.k.a. Executive orders should be stopped. Seen this ploy year after year. Apparently, that applies to just Russia. WebThe Saiga-12 (/ s a /) is a shotgun available in a wide range of configurations, patterned after the Kalashnikov series of rifles and named after the Saiga antelope native to Russia.Like the Kalashnikov rifle variants, it is a rotating bolt, long-stroke gas piston operated firearm that feeds from a box magazine. First, this president has never made one decision that was in the nations interest. As of the time of this writing, RWC is expected to release a statement in the coming days. It would only apply to Russian made Chevrolets. Ive read a few posts here by libs that have been reduced to d*ck measuring by comparing the number of days each president went on vacation. 3) Debt Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. George W. Bush, spent more time on vacation in one year then Obama has in six years. You beat me to the punch. Sounds like a Socialist Obamite troll to me. Don't candy coat your feelings. 11 junio, 2020. 4. The small diameter cartridge has to be lifted by the bullet guide more than larger diameter cartridges. I see them driving Ford trucks and armed with our weapons they took from the Iraqis and were donated because of Syria. AND AS A COUNTRY WE ARE TIRED OF WAR. I have always bought Herters. Also shown is the percentage share each export category represents in terms of overall exports from Russia. WIB land To thing that my time served was for this jackass. I own several weapons including military style weapons, could care less about the notorious AK. And every time they have a chance to stoke it up they do. Please excuse if I'm talking out of my ass but I had heard something to to with the end of the Import ban of Russian made guns? They have certainly done well with all the Obama hype Get yours while you still can . Which also makes me believe that he has threatened other actions if his toes get stepped on. Kind of how I did above when I beat you to the correct way to respond in a civil society. I have never seen an administration that hates the things that made our nation great. Replicate one that uses all american parts. As I stated earlier Im no sheep. YYYYYYYYYEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!! More important for obama to show putin he can sanction him than to take care of all the people in ukraine and Iraq and get rid of the corruption and real terrorists. I never experienced this level of deception during the Bush administration and it is cause for alarm. WebWhat specific Saiga rifle? If you run the quick Mart you dont need I be worrying about the jiffy mart not getting enough customers, The problem with people loke you is that you cannot see what is happening past Bush and Obama. Saiga/AK ban | Survivalist Forum In plain English, itmeans as long as you own the product and do not owe Kalashnikov Concern any money for it, you are clear of the executive order, can shoot, sell or do whatever you please with the firearm or part within the limits of the existing laws. Anybody, in the USA who actually works for a living and is not on welfare and can shit and wipe their ass knows exactly what is wrong with this country. But in a nuke attack, a group of 9 year olds sticking their heads under school desks is really just stupid. AMEN Badbird, you said it all. The leader has to lead. And time has Daryl Issa come up with nothing. Yes I do remember my country pre Obama, my first president was Eisenhower. Clean house not just republicans but democrats as well. Just another example of President Erkel screwing things up. IF AND WHEN it is fired upon another that would make its ownership illegal. Financial colapse. Next week, Obama will want to cozy up to the Russians over or something. $5,000 deductible for major medical, and the co-pays were higher then what I pay my doc for a regular visit.